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Title: Comment on "Radiative forcings for 28 potential Archean greenhouse gases" by Byrne and Goldblatt (2014)

Abstract

In the recent article by Byrne and Goldblatt, "Radiative forcing for 28 potential Archean greenhouse gases", Clim. Past. 10, 1779–1801 (2014), the authors employ the HITRAN2012 spectroscopic database to evaluate the radiative forcing of 28 Archean gases. As part of the evaluation of the status of the spectroscopy of these gases in the selected spectral region (50–1800 cm-1), the cross sections generated from the HITRAN line-by-line parameters were compared with those of the PNNL database of experimental cross sections recorded at moderate resolution. The authors claimed that for NO2, HNO3, H2CO, H2O2, HCOOH, C2H4, CH3OH and CH3Br there exist large or sometimes severe disagreements between the databases. In this work we show that for only three of these eight gases a modest discrepancy does exist between the two databases and we explain the origin of the differences. For the other five gases, the disagreements are not nearly at the scale suggested by the authors, while we explain some of the differences that do exist. In summary, the agreement between the HITRAN and PNNL databases is very good, although not perfect. Typically differences do not exceed 10 %, provided that HITRAN data exist for the bands/wavelengths of interest. It appears thatmore » a molecule-dependent combination of errors has affected the conclusions of the authors. In at least one case it appears that they did not take the correct file from PNNL (N2O4 (dimer)+ NO2 was used in place of the monomer). Finally, cross sections of HO2 from HITRAN (which do not have a PNNL counterpart) were not calculated correctly in BG, while in the case of HF misleading discussion was presented there based on the confusion by foreign or noise features in the experimental PNNL spectra.« less

Authors:
 [1]; ORCiD logo [2];  [2];  [3];  [3];  [3]
  1. Harvard-Smithsonian Center for Astrophysics, Cambridge, MA (United States); Tomsk State Univ. (Russia)
  2. Harvard-Smithsonian Center for Astrophysics, Cambridge, MA (United States)
  3. Pacific Northwest National Lab. (PNNL), Richland, WA (United States)
Publication Date:
Research Org.:
Pacific Northwest National Lab. (PNNL), Richland, WA (United States)
Sponsoring Org.:
USDOE
OSTI Identifier:
1214395
Grant/Contract Number:  
NNX13AI59G; AC05-76RL01830
Resource Type:
Accepted Manuscript
Journal Name:
Climate of the Past (Online)
Additional Journal Information:
Journal Name: Climate of the Past (Online); Journal Volume: 11; Journal Issue: 8; Journal ID: ISSN 1814-9332
Publisher:
European Geosciences Union
Country of Publication:
United States
Language:
English
Subject:
54 ENVIRONMENTAL SCIENCES

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Kochanov, R. V., Gordon, I. E., Rothman, L. S., Sharpe, S. W., Johnson, T. J., and Sams, R. L. Comment on "Radiative forcings for 28 potential Archean greenhouse gases" by Byrne and Goldblatt (2014). United States: N. p., 2015. Web. doi:10.5194/cp-11-1097-2015.
Kochanov, R. V., Gordon, I. E., Rothman, L. S., Sharpe, S. W., Johnson, T. J., & Sams, R. L. Comment on "Radiative forcings for 28 potential Archean greenhouse gases" by Byrne and Goldblatt (2014). United States. https://doi.org/10.5194/cp-11-1097-2015
Kochanov, R. V., Gordon, I. E., Rothman, L. S., Sharpe, S. W., Johnson, T. J., and Sams, R. L. Tue . "Comment on "Radiative forcings for 28 potential Archean greenhouse gases" by Byrne and Goldblatt (2014)". United States. https://doi.org/10.5194/cp-11-1097-2015. https://www.osti.gov/servlets/purl/1214395.
@article{osti_1214395,
title = {Comment on "Radiative forcings for 28 potential Archean greenhouse gases" by Byrne and Goldblatt (2014)},
author = {Kochanov, R. V. and Gordon, I. E. and Rothman, L. S. and Sharpe, S. W. and Johnson, T. J. and Sams, R. L.},
abstractNote = {In the recent article by Byrne and Goldblatt, "Radiative forcing for 28 potential Archean greenhouse gases", Clim. Past. 10, 1779–1801 (2014), the authors employ the HITRAN2012 spectroscopic database to evaluate the radiative forcing of 28 Archean gases. As part of the evaluation of the status of the spectroscopy of these gases in the selected spectral region (50–1800 cm-1), the cross sections generated from the HITRAN line-by-line parameters were compared with those of the PNNL database of experimental cross sections recorded at moderate resolution. The authors claimed that for NO2, HNO3, H2CO, H2O2, HCOOH, C2H4, CH3OH and CH3Br there exist large or sometimes severe disagreements between the databases. In this work we show that for only three of these eight gases a modest discrepancy does exist between the two databases and we explain the origin of the differences. For the other five gases, the disagreements are not nearly at the scale suggested by the authors, while we explain some of the differences that do exist. In summary, the agreement between the HITRAN and PNNL databases is very good, although not perfect. Typically differences do not exceed 10 %, provided that HITRAN data exist for the bands/wavelengths of interest. It appears that a molecule-dependent combination of errors has affected the conclusions of the authors. In at least one case it appears that they did not take the correct file from PNNL (N2O4 (dimer)+ NO2 was used in place of the monomer). Finally, cross sections of HO2 from HITRAN (which do not have a PNNL counterpart) were not calculated correctly in BG, while in the case of HF misleading discussion was presented there based on the confusion by foreign or noise features in the experimental PNNL spectra.},
doi = {10.5194/cp-11-1097-2015},
journal = {Climate of the Past (Online)},
number = 8,
volume = 11,
place = {United States},
year = {Tue Aug 25 00:00:00 EDT 2015},
month = {Tue Aug 25 00:00:00 EDT 2015}
}

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